DimÂitris Koutoukidis, UniÂverÂsiÂty of Oxford
Full TranÂscript
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Here we are, so thank you very much for invitÂing me. I am DimÂitris, I’m a research felÂlow at the UniÂverÂsiÂty of Oxford and my research focusÂes on food purÂchasÂing as well as develÂopÂing interÂvenÂtions for dietary weight loss. And my studÂies are fundÂed through pubÂlic funds from the NationÂal InstiÂtute for Health Research. And today I’m going to be talkÂing to you about how we can improve attiÂtudes to foods through applyÂing behavÂioral sciÂences and nudges, parÂticÂuÂlarÂly focusÂing on food purÂchasÂing and pretÂty much folÂlowÂing on from PasÂcal’s excelÂlent presentation.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So a litÂtle bit of conÂtext. We know that diet, togethÂer with tobacÂco use are the two most imporÂtant deterÂmiÂnants of health. And as in the U.S., the same applies in the UK, where the diet at the popÂuÂlaÂtion levÂel is subÂopÂtiÂmal as we eat quite a lot of sugÂar, satÂuÂratÂed fats, salt as well as colÂors. Now, tryÂing to improve that at the popÂuÂlaÂtion levÂel has been very, very challenging.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
And thereÂfore, we need to know the interÂvenÂtions to try and see how we can actuÂalÂly manÂage that. In this conÂtext, food purÂchasÂing is a very promisÂing option because it is a key deterÂmiÂnant of food conÂsumpÂtion. And thereÂfore that gives us a clear opporÂtuÂniÂty for interÂvenÂtion with quite rich.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Now we can simÂplisÂtiÂcalÂly think of these interÂvenÂtions as those that tarÂget the indiÂvidÂual, and those that tarÂget the enviÂronÂment. And both speakÂers have touched upon those. So the indiÂvidÂual-levÂel interÂvenÂtions such as offerÂing peoÂple a healthÂiÂer alterÂnaÂtive, or a swap required reflecÂtion and anaÂlytÂiÂcal deciÂsion-makÂing. But meanÂingÂful deciÂsions about food are not reflecÂtive, but instead they’re autoÂmatÂic reacÂtions promptÂed by enviÂronÂmenÂtal cues. And thereÂfore there’s quite a lot of interÂest on enviÂronÂmenÂtal-levÂel interÂvenÂtions, such as orderÂing the default at the point of choice, the so-called choice archiÂtecÂture, or nudgÂing interÂvenÂtions. And as [phoÂnetÂic Gareth 00:02:11] menÂtioned, it’s quite chalÂlengÂing to run all these interÂvenÂtions with the retailers.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So what we did was that we decidÂed to take a step back and try to see if we can see an effect in the lab, in an experÂiÂmenÂtal online setÂting. So the aim of the first study, and I will present two of those today to you. It was to test effecÂtiveÂness of an indiÂvidÂual-levÂel interÂvenÂtion and enviÂronÂmenÂtal-levÂel interÂvenÂtion on the satÂuÂratÂed fat conÂtent of the shopÂping basÂket durÂing an online shopÂping experiment.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So, parÂticÂiÂpants were recruitÂed and they were asked to buy 10 items from a shopÂping list. These were all items that were high in satÂuÂratÂed fat, and for which alterÂnaÂtives with lowÂer satÂuÂratÂed fats were also existÂing. And we tried to look for food catÂeÂgories that were typÂiÂcal in the UK diet. We asked parÂticÂiÂpants to buy one from each catÂeÂgoÂry and nothÂing more. And tryÂing to buy things that they and their famÂiÂly would typÂiÂcalÂly eat.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So what we did was that we recruitÂed 1,240 peoÂple for proÂlifÂic, and we ranÂdomÂized them to either be offered a swap, either alterÂing the default order of foods, both interÂvenÂtions comÂbined, or a conÂtrol group. In the first interÂvenÂtion where we offered peoÂple a swap, peoÂple essenÂtialÂly went to our online superÂmarÂket where they can see the instrucÂtions, they could withÂdraw at any point. And they could essenÂtialÂly look for an item as with any othÂer superÂmarÂket, either through the dropÂdown menu, or by typÂing on the bar. So if, for examÂple, someÂbody wantÂed the chedÂdar cheese, they will click on that, they will see all the prodÂucts in ranÂdom order, and they will click on the one they wantÂed to buy. And at that stage, they will get a swap which will be matched for brand, weight and price. And they could choose to either keep these or stick with the origÂiÂnal option.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So then this will be added to the trolÂley, and then they will conÂtinÂue doing that for the folÂlowÂing 10 prodÂucts. And then they’re going to checkÂout. In the secÂond interÂvenÂtion, where we essenÂtialÂly changed the order of prodÂuct and we rank them based on the amount of satÂuÂratÂed fat that they had. That meant that essenÂtialÂly what [inaudiÂble 00:04:48] was that the prodÂucts were in an ascendÂing order of satÂuÂratÂed fat. So this time when peoÂple clicked for the chedÂdar cheese, what you see here is typÂiÂcalÂly half of cheeses, lighter cheeses. So in this case, what do you see in start? ParÂticÂiÂpants, so half of cheeses, and lighter cheeses in pretÂty much in the whole first page. And it was only until the secÂond page that they were actuÂalÂly able to see a real chedÂdar cheese. They could, as always, click on these and see the nutriÂtion inforÂmaÂtion as with any othÂer superÂmarÂket. They could add things to the trolÂley, go back on the menus and conÂtinÂue on with the next product.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Now, we were a litÂtle bit worÂried that because that was simÂply an experÂiÂment and peoÂple weren’t actuÂalÂly spendÂing their own monÂey that what they’re going to do is that they’re going to rush through this very quickÂly, click on every sinÂgle butÂton that they could think of and try to finÂish as quickÂly as posÂsiÂble. So we don’t have process evalÂuÂaÂtion and maybe we should see that peoÂple spend about 20 minÂutes on study, browse about 25 pages and bought about 10 prodÂucts in their basÂkets. So, so far so good.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Our priÂmaÂry outÂcome was that change in the perÂcentÂage enerÂgy from satÂuÂratÂed fat in the total basÂket and comÂpared to the conÂtrol group that he had no interÂvenÂtion. And he had about 26% of the enerÂgy from satÂuÂratÂed fat from their final shopÂping basÂket. OfferÂing a swap, reduce that by two perÂcentÂage points, which was staÂtisÂtiÂcalÂly sigÂnifÂiÂcant and what we had powÂered our study to detect, because we thought that this was a clinÂiÂcalÂly relÂeÂvant reducÂtion. AlterÂing the order, reduced that by five perÂcentÂage points and that was sigÂnifÂiÂcantÂly lowÂer, both comÂpared to the conÂtrol and comÂpared to the swaps. And comÂbinÂing the interÂvenÂtions togethÂer led to a small decrease furÂther, but this was not sigÂnifÂiÂcantÂly lowÂer than alterÂing the order. It was only sigÂnifÂiÂcantÂly lowÂer than swaps and the conÂtrol group. What this tells us essenÂtialÂly, is that both interÂvenÂtions were effecÂtive alterÂing the order was more effecÂtive than swaps. And comÂbinÂing the two, essenÂtialÂly there was no added benÂeÂfit of adding the swaps.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
We’re also pleased to see that there was no difÂferÂence in their cost, which is a major chalÂlenge for many of these interÂvenÂtions. And there was no sigÂnifÂiÂcant difÂferÂence by group in the total shopÂping basÂket. And there was also no difÂferÂence in terms of sex, age, ethÂnic group, BMI, eduÂcaÂtion, or income.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Now movÂing on to the secÂond study, of course, offerÂing the swaps was less effecÂtive than alterÂing the order. But many superÂmarÂkets do see this as a much more viable first step approach. So we wantÂed to explore a litÂtle bit furÂther how we can actuÂalÂly increase the accepÂtance of sorts. So that was about 10% in the preÂviÂous study. So although peoÂple found them quite acceptÂable, not a lot of peoÂple actuÂalÂly clicked on them to accept the swaps.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So what we thought was that mesÂsagÂing and framÂing may affect the choice and typÂiÂcalÂly givÂing peoÂple vague inforÂmaÂtion durÂing attriÂtion, qualÂiÂty might not be parÂticÂuÂlarÂly salient. On the othÂer hand, more sellÂing strateÂgies, sciÂenÂtists, for examÂple, PACE or what we call the PhysÂiÂcal ActivÂiÂty CaloÂrie EquivÂaÂlent, which I’ll explain in the next few slides, maybe more effecÂtive. So the end of this study was to test whether increÂmenÂtalÂly increasÂing the tanÂgiÂbilÂiÂty of the inforÂmaÂtion proÂvidÂed with lowÂer enerÂgy swaps this time. So what we were tryÂing to do was to reduce the amount of caloÂries that peoÂple order if these reduce the total enerÂgy ordered in an experÂiÂmenÂtal setting.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So in this study, we ranÂdomÂize peoÂple into four groups. The first one was the conÂtrol group where peoÂple got their stanÂdard swap with no parÂticÂuÂlar mesÂsagÂing, simÂply sayÂing, how about swapÂping your stanÂdard Coke to a Coke Zero? In the secÂond group that had the fewÂer caloÂries mesÂsage. There was a badge sayÂing that this here has fewÂer caloÂries. And the third group, which was the numerÂic caloÂrie group were essenÂtialÂly givÂing the exact numÂber of caloÂries that peoÂple saved by makÂing the swap. And in the final physÂiÂcal activÂiÂty, caloÂrie equivÂaÂlent group, we were givÂing the exact numÂber of caloÂries and how many minÂutes of walkÂing this equates to.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So in this parÂticÂuÂlar case, savÂing 208 caloÂries, and that equates to about 46 minÂutes of walkÂing. What we found was that in terms of sweet snacks, both the numerÂic caloÂries and the PACE mesÂsagÂing will sigÂnifÂiÂcantÂly reduce the enerÂgy conÂtent of the shopÂping basÂkets for sweet snacks. For savory snacks which were typÂiÂcalÂly crisps, we saw that all interÂvenÂtions were subÂstanÂtialÂly reduced the enerÂgy conÂtent of the shopÂping basÂket comÂpared to the control.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
HowÂevÂer we didÂn’t see any effect on drinks, although there was a small trend that the PACE mesÂsagÂing might be a litÂtle bit more effecÂtive. Now these don’t look like huge changes because if you look at the sweet snacks, that’s for 215 caloÂries on averÂage, it goes down to 200 caloÂries. But because these are only very, very small items that the length that we have to go through to offer an alterÂnaÂtive that can be viable, the marÂgin is very small. So withÂin this conÂtext, and if this is repliÂcatÂed with mulÂtiÂple snacks throughÂout the week, we would be able to get a clinÂiÂcalÂly meanÂingÂful difÂferÂence in enerÂgy intake
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So what are the impliÂcaÂtions? So of course, for research, these are experÂiÂmenÂtal triÂals and we do need to test the strateÂgies in real online setÂtings, as well as study the long-term effect on food purÂchasÂing habits. But until this time comes, online superÂmarÂkets can defÂiÂniteÂly play a much more proacÂtive role in shapÂing healthÂiÂer choicÂes for their cusÂtomers by knowÂing that both offerÂing swaps, but also alterÂing the order of prodÂucts to priÂorÂiÂtize the prodÂucts that are more healthy can actuÂalÂly be very effective.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
So in sumÂmaÂry, interÂvenÂtions to change the food purÂchasÂing are promisÂing to nudge peoÂple into healthÂiÂer choicÂes. AlterÂing the order and alterÂing the enviÂronÂment is more effecÂtive than swaps, increasÂing the tanÂgiÂbilÂiÂty of the inforÂmaÂtion proÂvidÂing when offerÂing its swap increasÂes the effecÂtiveÂness of the swab. And withÂin this conÂtext, the physÂiÂcal activÂiÂty caloÂrie mesÂsagÂing is the most effecÂtive. I would like to thank my colÂleagues and colÂlabÂoÂraÂtors both at the UniÂverÂsiÂty of Oxford and UCL and parÂticÂuÂlarÂly Dr. CarÂmen ranÂdomÂized, ProÂfesÂsor Susan Jebb and Sarah BreathÂnach and our funÂders and thank you for your attention.
SpeakÂer 2:
AmazÂing, DimÂitris. Thank you ever so much for that. AbsoluteÂly fanÂtasÂtic. We’ve got one quesÂtion in the Q and A; rememÂber if you’ve got more quesÂtions, feel free to put them in. There’s one quesÂtion here, basiÂcalÂly, just askÂing you to describe the conÂtrol group a litÂtle bit more, if you can.
DimÂitris Koutoukidis:
Sure. So essenÂtialÂly in the conÂtrol group, what hapÂpened was that we didÂn’t give any interÂvenÂtion at all. So parÂticÂiÂpants saw all prodÂucts in ranÂdom order that they were to see them in the superÂmarÂket. So there was actuÂalÂly no influÂence from us on the way that the prodÂucts were ranked and it was simÂply at random.


