AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield, Natwest
@alxchesterfield
ParÂticÂiÂpants comÂpletÂing a study online canÂnot clarÂiÂfy their underÂstandÂing of the task with an experÂiÂmenter, posÂsiÂbly leadÂing to reduced data qualÂiÂty. The absence of an experÂiÂmenter can be parÂticÂuÂlarÂly detriÂmenÂtal to the data qualÂiÂty for designs that involve comÂplex cogÂniÂtive tasks and mulÂtiÂple testÂing sesÂsions. HowÂevÂer, the insurÂgence of video conÂferÂencÂing techÂnolÂoÂgy now perÂmits live interÂacÂtion between a parÂticÂiÂpant and an experÂiÂmenter, facilÂiÂtatÂing task comÂpreÂhenÂsiveÂness and posÂsiÂbly improvÂing data qualÂiÂty of online studÂies. The purÂpose of the curÂrent study was to deterÂmine how the delivÂery of task instrucÂtions impacts data qualÂiÂty in an online cogÂniÂtive study.
In a between-subÂjects design, parÂticÂiÂpants comÂpletÂed two testÂing sesÂsions in either the Zoom conÂdiÂtion where an experÂiÂmenter delivÂered instrucÂtions or in a writÂten instrucÂtion conÂdiÂtion (no experÂiÂmenter). Each parÂticÂiÂpant comÂpletÂed two cogÂniÂtive tasks (spaÂtial n‑back and Remote AssoÂciates Test) along with surÂveys. Data qualÂiÂty was assessed through attenÂtion checks, comÂpreÂhenÂsion quizzes, task perÂforÂmance, and surÂvey test-retest reliÂaÂbilÂiÂty. Data colÂlecÂtion was recentÂly comÂpletÂed, and results will be preÂsentÂed at the conÂferÂence. As an inteÂgratÂed serÂvice provider with its graphÂiÂcal user interÂface, helpÂful supÂport team, and online comÂmuÂniÂty, GorilÂla has allowed us to creÂate and run our first online study in less than a year.
Full TranÂscript:
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
Thanks, Jo, thank you for invitÂing me. My preÂsenÂtaÂtion on finanÂcial regÂuÂlaÂtion is going to feel like a comeÂdown, I think. After swimÂming pools and night clubs and colÂor experÂiÂments. So apoloÂgies in advance. As I said, I’m Alex ChesterÂfield. I curÂrentÂly lead a behavÂioral risk team in interÂnal audit at one of the UKs biggest banks. I think it’s one of the first behavÂioral sciÂence teams in interÂnal audit. And the goal of our team is realÂly try and proÂtect our employÂees and cusÂtomers. And help, I guess preÂvent any probÂlems. I love the job of the team. It’s super interÂestÂing. I’m actuÂalÂly here today to talk about some of the research ideas with forÂmer colÂleagues, at the UK’s finanÂcial regÂuÂlaÂtor, the FCA, who realÂly pioÂneered using experÂiÂmenÂtal methÂods to inform finanÂcial regulation.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And again, for those who were thinkÂing, what the hell is regÂuÂlaÂtion? RegÂuÂlaÂtion ultiÂmateÂly tries to make finanÂcial serÂvices marÂkets, work betÂter everyÂday for conÂsumers? And then you think a lot of our lives, every time we buy someÂthing, our curÂrent accounts, maybe if we own a house. Or the mortÂgage. When we buy things on a credÂit card. So, it’s one of those non-trust serÂvices, on those marÂkets. It’s in the backÂground, it’s very much a hygiene facÂtor, but it does make a lot of things in our lives day-to-day posÂsiÂble. So the regÂuÂlaÂtor exists to try and make the marÂkets work, as well as posÂsiÂble for conÂsumers. So I’ll be talkÂing mainÂly about my expeÂriÂences at the FCA, as most of the research that my forÂmer colÂleagues and some of myself did, is pubÂlished. So lisÂtenÂers and watchÂers, now can go and read up on those studÂies in much more detail.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And I should also say as an ex regÂuÂlaÂtor, and someÂone curÂrentÂly workÂing in interÂnal audit, this sesÂsion is very much my perÂsonÂal reflecÂtions, and don’t reflect the views of any curÂrent or priÂor orgaÂniÂzaÂtion, that I work for. A bit more forÂmalÂly, I studÂied CogÂniÂtive and DeciÂsion SciÂence at UCA, so I think I saw a glimpse [inaudiÂble 00:02:01] on the BedÂford Way, which I have very fond memÂoÂries of. I’m also actuÂalÂly co-authorÂing a book, on why we divide and how we can bring peoÂple back togethÂer. It’s called Poles Apart. This is a plug. It’s pubÂlished in SepÂtemÂber with PenÂguin RanÂdom House. But back to the sesÂsion. I was going to touch on four things. So first of all, one is my role at the FCA. SecÂond, why the FCA runs experÂiÂments. What chose to do that? Third, what types of experÂiÂments were run, when I was there, and the curÂrent team is still very much doing experÂiÂments and they’re growing.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
It’s a fanÂtasÂtic team. I can highÂly recÂomÂmend workÂing there. Jobs, do come up at the FCA. And then, four, what we learned in the process. I’m not going to use slides. No, no slides. It’s just going to be me. Just going to be me talkÂing. So I hope that’s okay. So, first of all, numÂber one is my role at the FCA. I was hired to help bring in a more realÂisÂtic view of human behavÂior, and into the behavÂioral ecoÂnomÂics team at the FCA. So a lot of regÂuÂlaÂtors are staffed by super loveÂly, and very smart peoÂple, often with ecoÂnomÂics or legal backÂgrounds, to write regÂuÂlaÂtion, or superÂvise firms. BehavÂioral sciÂenÂtists, whether that’s ecoÂnomÂics, psyÂcholÂoÂgy, neuÂroÂscience, social sociÂolÂoÂgy, are very much in the minorÂiÂty. And that means that they lack an imporÂtant perÂspecÂtive, espeÂcialÂly givÂen their role is ultiÂmateÂly to try and underÂstand why firms behave the way they do.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And then why conÂsumers behave the way they do. And I preÂviÂousÂly worked at Which, the conÂsumer chamÂpiÂon, and used lots of mixed methÂods. So qualÂiÂtaÂtive and more quanÂtiÂtaÂtive. To underÂstand where conÂsumers were facÂing probÂlems, and chalÂlenges in difÂferÂent marÂkets. And how govÂernÂment, or regÂuÂlaÂtors, or busiÂness might be able to solve those probÂlems. So I worked at the FCA for three years. It is an incredÂiÂbly diverse team. There’re experÂiÂmenÂtal econÂoÂmists, behavÂioral econÂoÂmists, neuÂroÂsciÂenÂtist, biolÂoÂgists, and linÂguisÂtic. PeoÂple with linÂguisÂtics backÂgrounds. So it’s a realÂly diverse team. And I think that was a realÂly imporÂtant part of makÂing it effecÂtive. And the goal of the team was to use methÂods and insights, from behavÂioral ecoÂnomÂics, or behavÂioral sciÂence more broadÂly, to help inform the deciÂsions of the orgaÂniÂzaÂtion. So a bit more specifÂiÂcalÂly, that means it’s informed that the regÂuÂlaÂtions, or rules that were being made about how firms should behave. About how the FCA superÂvise firms.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And then also it lateÂly, the team was applyÂing behavÂioral sciÂence to some of its own interÂnal operÂaÂtions. So for examÂple, how to proÂmote diverÂsiÂty, and incluÂsion in your orgaÂniÂzaÂtion. So that’s the first part, my role at the FCA. SecÂond. I was going to touch on, was why the FCA runs experÂiÂments. It realÂly did pioÂneer, and that’s much credÂit to SteÂfan Hunt and Paul Adams, who realÂly set the team up back in 2013. There’s a few things, just to zoom out for a moment, there was a few things that hapÂpened, which meant banks and the wider ecosysÂtem, so regÂuÂlaÂtors, govÂernÂment, et cetera, need to start thinkÂing about behavÂioral sciÂence, and why the BehavÂior ecoÂnomÂics team was set up at the FCA. So first of all, start at the finanÂcial criÂsis of 2008. That was a preÂcurÂsor for the UK govÂernÂment, their deciÂsion to split the finanÂcial regulator.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
It was preÂviÂousÂly the FSA into two. So one part of the regÂuÂlaÂtor, or one part of the regÂuÂlaÂtions, which was lookÂing after, what’s called the staÂbilÂiÂty of finanÂcial marÂkets. So makÂing sure that all the monÂey’s movÂing in the right places. And that the marÂkets as a whole, weren’t going to colÂlapse. When that moves to, what is known as the PruÂdenÂtial regÂuÂlaÂtoÂry authorÂiÂty, under the Bank of EngÂland. And then the FCA, that’s the part that I was in. The behavÂioral ecoÂnomÂics team, and that would focus on the othÂer part of regÂuÂlaÂtions. So what’s called conÂduct regÂuÂlaÂtion. So conÂducÂt’s basiÂcalÂly how your funds behave, and that superÂvised more than 56,000 finanÂcial serÂvices firms. And over 140,000, what are called approved indiÂvidÂuÂals. That’s peoÂple like givÂing finanÂcial advice, for examÂple. So the creÂation of the FCA in 2013, which focusÂes very much on conÂduct, that’s the C of FCA, led to new objecÂtives from parÂliaÂment, includÂing the need to proÂmote competition.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
So comÂpeÂtiÂtion across finanÂcial serÂvices marÂkets. So peoÂple switchÂing again, and I guess the theÂoÂry is, is that more peoÂple switch, that would driÂve up valÂue, and qualÂiÂty, and lowÂer prices for cusÂtomers. It’s a good thing. You want more comÂpeÂtiÂtion. So that was one of the new regÂuÂlaÂtors objecÂtives in 2013, plus a renewed focus on conÂsumers, so proÂtectÂing conÂsumers. And if you want to proÂtect conÂsumers, and proÂmote comÂpeÂtiÂtion, then you’ve got to underÂstand both how conÂsumers behave, and how that affects comÂpeÂtiÂtion in marÂkets. So on that basis, the FCA had a clear manÂdate to start thinkÂing, and using behavÂioral sciÂence. But as well as the finanÂcial criÂsis, I think in parÂalÂlel, you had the launch of Nudge, for examÂple. I think that was pubÂlished back in 2008. And one of the biggest authors, Cass SunÂstein, who was appointÂed as ObaÂma’s regÂuÂlaÂtion chief in 2009. The books othÂer author, Thaler, advised the UK’s new prime minÂisÂter, Cameron.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
[inaudiÂble 00:07:36] the behavÂioral insights team. So there’s lots of noise about behavÂioral sciÂence, hapÂpenÂing at the same time, or shortÂly after the finanÂcial criÂsis hapÂpened. So I think that’s broadÂer popÂuÂlarÂizaÂtion of behavÂioral sciÂence. ObviÂousÂly, it’s been decades and decades of behavÂioral sciÂence, but the popÂuÂlarÂizaÂtion of it, the fact that govÂernÂments are startÂing to use behavÂioral sciÂence, comÂbined with the finanÂcial criÂsis, led polÂiÂcyÂmakÂers, acaÂdÂeÂmics withÂin the great and the good, could have asked that quesÂtion, why did the finanÂcial criÂsis hapÂpen? Despite the plethoÂra of rules, and regÂuÂlaÂtion, and govÂerÂnance and comÂpliÂance? Why did we get this finanÂcial criÂsis, that hardÂly anyÂone actuÂalÂly preÂdictÂed? So those two things comÂbined, I think, led to a much more focus on behavÂior, withÂin finanÂcial orgaÂniÂzaÂtions. Also, culÂture, orgaÂniÂzaÂtionÂal culÂture, and then how that influÂences busiÂness modÂels, prodÂucts, cusÂtomer jourÂneys, and interÂacÂtions with cusÂtomers. The two peoÂple that set up the behavÂior ecoÂnomÂics team, knew it wasÂn’t just enough, to bring in a theÂoÂry about what might work, despite best intentions.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And despite the best behavÂior ecoÂnomÂics theÂoÂry, you still don’t realÂly know whether a rule will work in pracÂtice, whether it will solve the probÂlem, and that it’s designed to do and to help cusÂtomers. That led to the realÂizaÂtion that experÂiÂments, or ranÂdomÂized conÂtrolled triÂals, so field triÂals, can help the FCA to be a more effecÂtive regÂuÂlaÂtor, and ultiÂmateÂly help cusÂtomers. So that’s where it startÂed. So third, third part of my sesÂsion, I was going to touch on what types of experÂiÂments the FCA ran, and I guess to sum it up many. One of the first ones, this was before I joined. One of the first ones that the team did. I think this shows the jourÂney that the team went on, but one of the first ones, first ranÂdomÂized conÂtrolled trials.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
So field triÂals that the team ran. This is by the founders, Paul Adams and SteÂfan Hunt, was on optiÂmizÂing comÂmuÂniÂcaÂtions that firms were sendÂing to conÂsumers. And these comÂmuÂniÂcaÂtions that firms were sendÂing, were tryÂing to put things right that had gone wrong. So for examÂple, if prodÂucts have been missed sold, these letÂters were telling cusÂtomers, that actuÂalÂly they could have a potenÂtial claim. So, potenÂtial rights to get comÂpenÂsaÂtion, or addressÂes is more forÂmalÂly now in finanÂcial serÂvices. But the chalÂlenge was, that firms were sendÂing these letÂters, telling cusÂtomers that they were potenÂtialÂly owed monÂey, no comÂpenÂsaÂtion, but the response rate was very, very low. So the team, ecoÂnomÂics team, saw an opporÂtuÂniÂty to do a ranÂdomÂized conÂtrol triÂal. So the focus of the research is very much on how to encourÂage conÂsumers, who may be, due redress.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
You may be due the opporÂtuÂniÂty to get monÂey back, to respond to these letÂters. So how do we increase the response rate to these letÂters? The team worked on a real case, with a firm, that was volÂunÂtarÂiÂly writÂing, to almost 200,000 cusÂtomers, about the failÂing that it had, had in its sales process. So sevÂen treatÂments were designed. These were realÂly basic. This was done back in, probÂaÂbly 2014. This was kind of in the earÂly stages, I guess, of Nudge, and behavÂioral sciÂence. There’s sevÂen treatÂments designed. So one, for examÂple, was adding a mesÂsage to an enveÂlope, to try and encourÂage peoÂple to open the letÂter in the first place, simÂpliÂfyÂing the texts, sendÂing a reminder, et cetera, and bulÂlets was anothÂer one. So again, that was a way of simÂpliÂfyÂing the text.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
I think they changed the name of the responÂdent. So the chief exec verÂsus the sales manÂagÂer. So it almost changÂing the mesÂsenÂger again, to see what would work empirÂiÂcalÂly. In terms of what the results were, the conÂtrol letÂter, so that was the one that the firm was sendÂing out hisÂtorÂiÂcalÂly, that had the very low response rate. The conÂtrol rate in the triÂal received a 1.5% response rate. So only 1.5% of all cusÂtomers that the letÂter was being sent to you. So almost 200,000 were respondÂing. When I guess lookÂing across the treatÂments, and what worked, and what didÂn’t. The team found that salient bulÂlets, salient bulÂlet points, which was makÂing that text stand out more. So more promiÂnent, to the readÂer, was realÂly effecÂtive. So that alone increased the response rates. So from 1.5% in the conÂtrol group to nearÂly 4%.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
So again, that’s still low, at an absolute levÂel, but relÂaÂtiveÂly, a jumped from 1.5% to 4% is quite effecÂtive. Just for adding some bulÂlet points. But, when the bulÂlet points were comÂbined with othÂer treatÂments, that boostÂed the response rate to 12%. So again, arguably an overÂall absolute levÂel, 12% is still quite low, but at a relÂaÂtive levÂel from 1.5% to 12%, that’s realÂly effecÂtive, That’s equivÂaÂlent to about an addiÂtionÂal 20,000 peoÂple respondÂing, to get monÂey that they’re owed. So here, the learnÂing from that first ranÂdomÂized conÂtrolled triÂal with a firm, was that small changes do work. And then interÂnalÂly, in the orgaÂniÂzaÂtion, your reports are getÂting that earÂly use case, a quick win, we can call it. To get buy-in to doing more field triÂals and getÂting more resource, and getÂting more peoÂple into the team to do more of these trials.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
And if anyÂone’s interÂestÂed in readÂing on about that in more detail, if you just Google occaÂsionÂal FCA, occaÂsionÂal paper, numÂber two, you can read all about the triÂal, and the results, and the stats, in more and more detail. ActuÂalÂly, just before I left a couÂple of years ago, I ran a simÂiÂlar triÂal with colÂleagues, with pawnÂbroking cusÂtomers, at one of the UKs biggest pawnÂbroking firms. So pawnÂbroking is, it’s actuÂalÂly a very old method of lendÂing monÂey. SimÂply read lots of DickÂens. It feaÂtures in there, so it’s a way of peoÂple give a watch, and they get a loan essenÂtialÂly for that good. And then if you can’t repay the loan, then the shop, the pawnÂbroking shop keeps your watch or your item jewÂelÂry, as kind of colÂlatÂerÂal. So anyÂway, but there’s a simÂiÂlar probÂlem. So here, with the pawnÂbroking from monÂey was on the table.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
PawnÂbroking cusÂtomers were owed monÂey, and these cusÂtomers are quite vulÂnerÂaÂble as well. So the actuÂal absolute amounts that were owed, were quite low, but again, for the cusÂtomers, it was quite a lot of monÂey, but they weren’t claimÂing the monÂey. So from a behavÂioral perÂspecÂtive, that again was realÂly chalÂlengÂing, but also interÂestÂing that there’s monÂey on the table, that peoÂple are owed, but why aren’t they getÂting it? And again, if peoÂple are interÂestÂed to look at this, if you just Google FCA occaÂsionÂal paper numÂber 59, you can read all about this triÂal in more detail. But here, I want to tell you about this one, it’s interÂestÂing, because here, we inteÂgratÂed design prinÂciÂples into the start. So way before we even got to the ranÂdomÂized conÂtrolled triÂal with the firm, we worked with a design acaÂdÂeÂmÂic at Cardiff Mets, to underÂstand more qualÂiÂtaÂtiveÂly, why these cusÂtomers weren’t respondÂing to the comÂmuÂniÂcaÂtions that our firm is sendÂing out.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
We want to underÂstand these peoÂple’s lives. None of us had used pawn broking firms before we could come up with some barÂriÂers, but they were likeÂly to be wrong. So we wantÂed to speak and underÂstand peoÂple’s lives in conÂtext, in broadÂer conÂtext, before designÂing an interÂvenÂtion, to try and get them to respond, and get the monÂey that they were owed. So we worked with designÂers, doing some realÂly deep ethnogÂraÂphy obserÂvaÂtion work. And then we also co-designed with them, what might work to then test in the field triÂal. And anothÂer learnÂing was, I think it’s around havÂing humilÂiÂty, so again, I was workÂing in the FCA with some realÂly good behavÂioral data sciÂenÂtists, who were amazing.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
We had some of the superÂviÂsors on board, again, who worked with the firm. We had peoÂple at the firm involved. And whilst behavÂioral sciÂenÂtists are good at many things, we’re not always good at designÂing comÂmuÂniÂcaÂtions that, peoÂple will open, click, read, underÂstand, take the required action. So I think havÂing that humilÂiÂty, and realÂizÂing that often you need othÂer disÂciÂplines involved in the mix, or the methÂods, to try and solve your probÂlem, as it was a realÂly imporÂtant learnÂing. From that first triÂal done years ago, to where we got to. And the result of that pawnÂbroking triÂal was that the behavÂioralÂly informed letÂter, which was, you can tell we have designÂers involved. It douÂbled colÂlecÂtion rates. Again, that was realÂly powÂerÂful, for the cusÂtomers that we were helpÂing. There was actuÂalÂly a secÂond interÂvenÂtion that we triÂaled. That was much more focused on the interÂface that staff in the pawnÂbroking stores were using with customers.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
We did a lot of data anaÂlytÂics in the backÂground. That’s actuÂalÂly in field. So when that is finÂished, that will come out in good time. But as we learn more, so as the team proÂgressÂes, as the team grew, from using the field triÂals, othÂer experÂiÂmenÂtal methÂods were used, includÂed online experÂiÂments, QuaÂsi-experÂiÂmenÂtal methÂods. So where, doing a field triÂal, online experÂiÂments wasÂn’t posÂsiÂble. What kind of metÂric methÂods can we use to infer causalÂiÂty, from the data that we get from firms. And also inteÂgratÂing othÂer tools and insights, priÂor to getÂting to a field triÂal. Or to run an experÂiÂment to realÂly inform the design of the interÂvenÂtion. Now, I was going to finÂish. Jo, I can see you on, I was going to finÂish on my five learnÂings. And I have anothÂer examÂple of that, but I’ll just do the five learnÂings and leave it there.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
Okay. Right. So what did we learn in the process? Five learnÂings from doing experÂiÂments, at the FCA. One was, inteÂgrate experÂiÂmenÂtal methÂods with othÂer methÂods, parÂticÂuÂlarÂly qualÂiÂtaÂtive at the start, to underÂstand why peoÂple are behavÂing in that parÂticÂuÂlar conÂtext, before you then test interÂvenÂtions. First. SecÂond is online experÂiÂments are so much cheapÂer, and so much faster, and a real alterÂnaÂtive to field triÂals, if the deciÂsion conÂtext is replicÂaÂble. So for examÂple, in an online investÂment conÂtext, that makes an ideÂal sitÂuÂaÂtion, rather than doing a field triÂal, to actuÂalÂly doing simÂuÂlatÂing that deciÂsion online. Also, it doesÂn’t necÂesÂsarÂiÂly have to take the place of field triÂals. We also use online experÂiÂments. This is pubÂlished as well. PriÂor to a field triÂal, to whitÂtle down all the posÂsiÂble interÂvenÂtions that we could do, again to save time and monÂey once we’re actuÂalÂly in field workÂing banks.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
LearnÂing three, was to manÂage the expecÂtaÂtions of senior leadÂers. This is like the biggest learnÂing, I think. There’s so much uncerÂtainÂty ahead of going into an experÂiÂment. You have got no idea what works. I worked with some of the, this is not me. Some of my colÂleagues were so brilÂliant, so qualÂiÂfied, and even with the best colÂleagues workÂing, the best acaÂdÂeÂmics, a lot of the time stuff still doesÂn’t work, or it backÂfires. And, actuÂalÂly that is not a failÂure. That is not a failÂure. You still learn someÂthing. So an experÂiÂment nevÂer fails. You always learn someÂthing. Unless the experÂiÂmenÂt’s that badÂly designed. But that’s hard. So that I think givÂing manÂagÂing expecÂtaÂtions upfront to stakeÂholdÂers is realÂly, realÂly imporÂtant. I’m phrasÂing it as a, we are de-riskÂing this process. I found that helps.
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
NumÂber four is the valÂue of an interÂdisÂciÂpliÂnary team. So again, you need that comÂbiÂnaÂtion of very quanÂtiÂtaÂtive peoÂple. Who know the experÂiÂmenÂtal methÂods, who can anaÂlyze data, who can push forÂwards, but you also need peoÂple that can manÂage interÂnal relaÂtionÂships, stakeÂholdÂers, and the creÂative skills designed to get treatÂments. And comÂmuÂniÂcate those to stakeÂholdÂers. And then numÂber five, despite best intenÂtions treatÂments, don’t always work. So that iniÂtial effect that you get, which can have such a great impact. And don’t always work in the longer term. So look at longer term outÂcomes, as well as that short term effect on deciÂsions. That would be my fifth learning.
Jo EverÂshed:
That’s fanÂtasÂtic. Thank you very much. I, for one am very grateÂful, that there are regÂuÂlaÂtors in the UK, who are sitÂting there, sort of actÂing on behalf of conÂsumers. MakÂing sure that comÂpaÂnies have to make the repaÂraÂtions that they’ve been required to make. So thank you for that work there. One quesÂtion that I wantÂed to ask you is, which of the projects that you’ve worked on, have you been the most proud of? Because, I can see you’re doing real good in the work, but do you ever have that moment where you’re like, yes!
Dr AlexanÂdra ChesterÂfield:
Yeah, probÂaÂbly the pawnÂbroking one that I menÂtioned. A, I think, perÂsonÂalÂly and selfÂishÂly, I learned a lot on that doing a real life world triÂals. Where I was doing bits of codÂing, bits of data analyÂsis, and workÂing with some great colÂleagues, who are realÂly techÂniÂcalÂly qualÂiÂfied. But mainÂly I think, secÂondÂly, mainÂly because the cusÂtomers that we were helpÂing, you had a tanÂgiÂble effect on realÂly vulÂnerÂaÂble cusÂtomers, who actuÂalÂly that monÂey made a real difÂferÂence in their day-to-day lives.


